The Patrick Madrid Show: July 11, 2024 – Hour 3

Special Guest Host Ken Hensley

Ken dives deep into the intricate relationship between faith and obedience in the context of salvation and justification. He examines how Paul contrasts faith with works of the law, not with simple obedience to God. Plus, he addresses historical misinterpretations surrounding Luther’s struggle versus Paul’s struggle. He also takes a caller’s valuable critique on addressing antisemitism head-on.


  • Paul the Apostle’s statements about “Works” (01:09)
  • Christine – Complaint about comment that Luther was anti-Semite because he was German. (15:57)
  • Mark – Did Luther ask for a Catholic priest when he was on his deathbed? (19:53)
  • Sal – A lightbulb came on listening to your talk today. (21:53)
  • Brian – I read the Lutheran confessions and I don’t believe the battle between faith and works is necessarily what people think it is. (32:23)
  • David – I call it the ‘Protestant Revolution.’  Luther introduced a lot of new ideas. (41:45)
  • Jim – Did Allister McGrath bring out a new theology about Justification? (46:46)
  • Mark – Is it okay to choose between the lesser of two evils? It seems like that is something we have to do in politics today? (48:09)
Patrick Madrid is an acclaimed public speaker and has authored or edited 26 books, which have sold over a million copies worldwide, including foreign-language editions. He hosts The Patrick Madrid Show daily on Relevant Radio.