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Leading and Following – The Inner Life – July 11, 2025

Patrick Conleyby Patrick Conley

Fr. Bobby Blood joins Patrick in studio to Discuss How to Navigate Relationships: Leading and Following

  • You are always leading or following in a relationship.
  • (8:49) If you think your leader is going in the wrong direction what should you do?
  • How can insubordination become sinful a relationship?
  • (19:13) Nicole – Following. The wife is the neck. How do deal with a leader that is avoiding difficult conversations?

(23:13) Break 1

  • (25:33) Crystal – I am a follower. I just experienced this with my husband. I felt more uncomfortable and it caused my anxiety. But your conversation is really helping.
  • (29:51) Vittorio 14-years-old – I am likely going to become a chief of my group but some boys that I am leading do not show respect to me as leader of this group. How can I lead and still tolerate them?
  • What do we do if there is a difference it values between leaders and followers?

(37:09) Break 2

  • What is needed for a good leader?
  • (40:05) Jen – My spouse and I have a topsy-turvy dynamic where I am the leader. I want my spouse to be a leader.
  • (46:38) What is servant leadership?

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Patrick Conley

Patrick Conley

Patrick Conley was born, raised, and baptized in Wisconsin in a Protestant tradition. After meeting his wife, Kendra, through an Evangelical ministry at the University of Minnesota, they entered the Catholic Church in 2010. They listened to Relevant Radio, specifically The Inner Life, while preparing to enter the Church. Conley now holds a degree in theology from Oxford University and has served the Church in both academic theology and grassroots pastoral ministry. Conley teaches religion classes in a Catholic elementary school, serves as his parish Director of Religious Education, and is in formation for the permanent diaconate. He also hosts Practicing Catholic on Relevant Radio, exclusive to the Minneapolis area’s airwaves, and is a traveling presenter for the Catherine of Siena Institute apostolate. He lives in rural Wisconsin with his wife and their bulldogs, Georgie and Bingley.