Can someone who is just a “good person” get to heaven even if they don’t believe in God?

Cale dives into a thought-provoking discussion with a caller named Douglas from Albuquerque. Douglas, a self-proclaimed non-believer and seeker of truth, shares his unique journey. He’s devoted his life to selfless deeds, retiring early to volunteer full-time, driven not by religious beliefs but by a heartfelt desire to help others.

Cale applauds Douglas for his actions, highlighting the Christian principle that “faith without works is dead.” However, Cale brings a twist to the conversation, suggesting that the reverse is equally true: “works without faith is dead.” He argues that good deeds, while valuable and recognized by God, lack completeness without faith. This approach transforms mere activism into a spiritually fulfilling endeavor.

Douglas, intrigued, agrees to ponder this perspective and discuss it with his Christian friends. He’s been somewhat disenchanted with the Christian community but remains a passionate truth-seeker. Cale, seizing this opportunity, introduces the powerful teachings of Christ, emphasizing Jesus’ declaration as “the way, the truth, and the life.”

Cale cleverly uses C.S. Lewis’s argument – Jesus as a liar, lunatic, or Lord – to challenge Douglas’s understanding of Christ. He encourages Douglas to explore the authenticity of Jesus’ teachings and the reality of His resurrection.

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