Have You Tried the Napkin Trick? (The Patrick Madrid Show)

If you have ever engaged in a debate with a Protestant, you may have become frustrated because of a difference in their interpretation of Scripture. They might look at a passage in the Bible much differently than you do. They might also have a personal resentment for teachings of the Catholic Church. Don’t give up, though. Check out this helpful tip from Patrick Madrid that could lead them into the faith!

🎙️ In this inspiring podcast episode, Patrick Madrid shares a memorable encounter with two Calvinist Protestants at a parish event back in the early ’90s. Their challenging discussion, initially over the teachings about Mary, quickly escalates to a broader debate about biblical interpretation.

🍴 The scene shifts to a Denny’s, where the dialogue continues over Bibles and dinner. The Protestants accuse Patrick of misinterpreting scripture. In a masterstroke of simplicity and insight, Patrick uses a napkin to write “I never said you stole money,” demonstrating the nuances and multiple interpretations inherent in any text, including the Bible.

💡 This ‘napkin demonstration’ turns out to be a revelation. It profoundly impacts one of the Calvinists, an ex-Catholic, who later revisits and re-embraces Catholicism. This change is spurred by his newfound appreciation for the perspectives of the early Church Fathers, realizing their teachings are more in line with Catholicism.

🔥 Patrick Madrid’s story is not just about a debate, but about the power of perspective, the importance of historical context, and the transformative journey of faith. His experience offers a compelling example of how thoughtful dialogue, and a simple demonstration can lead to profound spiritual insights and changes. 🙏✨

Jake Moore serves as a Digital Audio Content Producer for Relevant Radio®. He is a graduate of Franciscan University of Steubenville, and is passionate about classic movies, Christian music, young adult ministry, and leading this generation to Christ through compelling media. You can listen to more of his podcasts at relevantradio.com and on the Relevant Radio® app.