The Patrick Madrid Show: April 22, 2024 – Hour 3

Mary from Phoenix bravely opens up about her personal struggle with her pro-choice stance despite her opposition to abortion due to her own painful experience. Patrick discusses the importance of recognizing the humanity of the unborn and dispelling the ‘clump of cells’ myth. Inspired by history’s misdeeds, he compares abortion to the moral failings of slave ownership, underlining the moral, not just religious, imperative to protect life. Mary’s journey of reconnecting with faith leads to a powerful conversation about healing, forgiveness, and the relentless love God has for all.


  • Mary – I am against abortion but I have a hard time being against pro-choice. If a person is not religious, then we’re forcing our religion on them. (00:48)
  • John – I love cats, but I saw that Pope Gregory the 9th said they were evil and it cause the death of many cats. Have you ever heard of this? (21:18)
  • Salvador – How do I explain hell to a Jehovah’s Witness? (24:31)
  • Teresa – I think I have cursed medals and I don’t know what to do now. Do I need to get my house blessed? How do I destroy them? (33:07)
  • Carlos – If the host isn’t dropped into the wine, does it just stay bread? (36:45)
  • Marie – I am a Catholic who had IVF and I don’t know that it was bad and I have this daughter and I love her so much. I wish I had a brother like Jeff to explain it but to say he would love me regardless. (38:26)
  • Randall – More people need to be like abolitionists and not allow any abortions at all. (48:26)
Patrick Madrid is an acclaimed public speaker and has authored or edited 26 books, which have sold over a million copies worldwide, including foreign-language editions. He hosts The Patrick Madrid Show daily on Relevant Radio.