The Inner Life – July 10, 2024 – 14 Rules of Discernment

Father Tim Gallagher joins Patrick to discuss 14 Rules of Discernment

  • (3:42) What is the outline of the 12 steps of Discernment?
  • First rule of discernment.
  • (13:17) Consolation and Desolation.

(18:30) Break 2

  • When in times of desolation NEVER make a change
  • (23:29) Anne – When you said ‘Never make a decision in desolation’, it struck me.  It hit me b/c I’m thinking about divorcing and am so desolate about it.  Thinking about stopping divorce in mean
  • How to increase your prayer in spiritual desolation.
  • (36:14) McKayla – Desolation, b/c I’ve been unwelcomed in the Church, by a specific person; so, for the time being I’ve been doing mass from home w/my children.

(39:44) Break 2

  • Summary of rules 8-14
  • (44:37) Dean – I’ve been reading discernment of spirits but suffering depression for years.  How to tell if it’s depression or spiritual desolation.


Patrick Conley was born, raised, and baptized in Wisconsin in a Protestant tradition. After meeting his wife, Kendra, through an Evangelical ministry at the University of Minnesota, they entered the Catholic Church in 2010. They listened to Relevant Radio, specifically The Inner Life, while preparing to enter the Church. Conley now holds a degree in theology from Oxford University and has served the Church in both academic theology and grassroots pastoral ministry. Conley teaches religion classes in a Catholic elementary school, serves as his parish Director of Religious Education, and is in formation for the permanent diaconate. He also hosts Practicing Catholic on Relevant Radio, exclusive to the Minneapolis area’s airwaves, and is a traveling presenter for the Catherine of Siena Institute apostolate. He lives in rural Wisconsin with his wife and their bulldogs, Georgie and Bingley.