“They’re Lying. Kids Need a Mommy and a Daddy.” (Trending with Timmerie)

Timmerie sits down with Katy Faust, the fierce, truth-telling founder of Them Before Us, to talk about something that should be obvious but somehow isn’t anymore: why kids need their mom and their dad.


The Truth Your 4-Year-Old Already Gets

Timmerie kicks things off with a conversation she had with her 4-year-old daughter, who declared (with all the sass and certainty only a preschooler can muster):

It’s not true. They’re lying. Kids need a mommy and a daddy.

Out of the mouths of babes.

In a world where everything is questioned (including whether moms and dads are interchangeable), this little girl sees reality clearly… and so does Katy Faust.


💔 The Cultural Crisis: When Kids Are the Casualties

Katy explains how our culture has flipped the script. Instead of asking what children need, we now ask what adults want and then use kids to fulfill it. She explains why this is a major problem:

Kids Have a Right to Their Mom and Dad

Not just “a” mom or “a” dad… their biological parents. They’re the ones wired to love and protect that child in a uniquely fierce, sacrificial way. 🙏
Adoption, Katy says (as an adoptive mom herself), is a loving response to tragedy, not a model for how we should design families from the start.

Biological Identity = Personal Identity

Children deeply need to know: “Whose am I?”


When kids are cut off from their origins: via IVF, surrogacy, anonymous sperm donors, it fractures their sense of self. 🧩

Gender Balance Isn’t Optional. It’s Essential.

Men father. Women mother. They do it differently. That’s a gift, not a glitch.
Two dads, two moms, or three poly-partners can’t replicate the complementarity of a mom and a dad. And when we pretend otherwise, kids pay the price…often through confusion, identity struggles, or even increased risk of abuse.


🚨 Where the Battle’s Fiercest

Katy doesn’t mince words. The two biggest cultural flashpoints where kids are denied a mom and dad:

-Gay marriage made moms and dads legally optional.

-Reproductive technologies intentionally separate kids from their biological parents in the name of adult “choice.”

Real love puts kids first.


Love = Sacrifice

As Catholics, we believe children are a gift, not a right. And that means saying a loving no to practices that intentionally deprive them of their parents, even if it’s uncomfortable or unpopular.

Want more? Check out Katy’s book 📚 “Them Before Us”. It’s a total eye-opener, and it’s a call to put children’s rights before adult desires.


👶Kids need a mom and dad. And guess what? Even your preschooler knows it.

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Jake Moore serves as a Digital Audio Content Producer for Relevant Radio®. He is a graduate of Franciscan University of Steubenville, and is passionate about classic movies, Christian music, young adult ministry, and leading this generation to Christ through compelling media. You can listen to more of his podcasts at relevantradio.com and on the Relevant Radio® app.