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The Four Last Things – The Inner Life – October 30, 2025

Patrick Conleyby Patrick Conley

Fr. Marc Lenneman joins Patrick to discuss The Four Last Things

  • Why are the last four things?
  • (9:54) What is Death?
  • (13:32) Barbara -Purgatory: my husband died last year. What’s the Church’s teaching about how long one prays for the dead?

(20:40) Break 1

  • (22:50) Julie – Cremation: YES OR NO? If we love our Lord, do we go to hell?
  • How do we deal with the fear of purgatory
  • (32:51) Nicole – Having Masses said for the dead vs. offering my own Holy Communion for someone who has died. Is that latter a good spiritual practice?

(39:06) Break 2

  • (43:51) Jimena – Question: a second grade kid asked about when you die – do you reincarnate? How should I respond to him?
  • (46:41) Diane – Purgatory: I’m confused. Heaven is eternal, but there has to be time spent in purgatory. How does that work?

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Patrick Conley

Patrick Conley

Patrick Conley was born, raised, and baptized in Wisconsin in a Protestant tradition. After meeting his wife, Kendra, through an Evangelical ministry at the University of Minnesota, they entered the Catholic Church in 2010. They listened to Relevant Radio, specifically The Inner Life, while preparing to enter the Church. Conley now holds a degree in theology from Oxford University and has served the Church in both academic theology and grassroots pastoral ministry. Conley teaches religion classes in a Catholic elementary school, serves as his parish Director of Religious Education, and is in formation for the permanent diaconate. He also hosts Practicing Catholic on Relevant Radio, exclusive to the Minneapolis area’s airwaves, and is a traveling presenter for the Catherine of Siena Institute apostolate. He lives in rural Wisconsin with his wife and their bulldogs, Georgie and Bingley.