The Patrick Madrid Show: July 09, 2024 – Hour 3

How do Catholic theologians decide what is literal and what is figurative? It starts with the early church fathers, who learned directly from the apostles. Through tradition and scripture, they’ve preserved Jesus’ teachings, ensuring the authentic meaning is handed down through generations. Patrick explores key biblical passages that illustrate this continuing tradition.


  • Laurie (email) – How is it that the Rosary only dates back 800 years? (00:41)
  • Barbara – If I didn’t have the presence of mind to properly bury a child I miss carried, what do I need to do to make it right? (02:37)
  • Shirley – Is it okay to be an organ donor? (05:34)
  • Matthew – Did anyone see Mary ascend into Heaven? If no one saw her, why do we celebrate the assumption? (08:29)
  • Steve – How do Catholic theologians discern which of Jesus’ words were metaphor or not? (13:48)
  • Nancy (email) – You refer to the “exit interview” as if it’s a real conversation. How can that be if we don’t have our body? (21:53)
  • Mark – What does “do not lead us to temptation” mean? (27:44)
  • Larry – Have you read the ‘Mystical City of God’ by Mary of Ágreda? What are your thoughts? (32:26)
  • Mary – Organ donation: Isn’t it true that the organs are taken while the body is still alive? (38:48)
  • Jamie – Family member doesn’t want last rites or catholic burial. What can we do? (42:07)
Patrick Madrid is an acclaimed public speaker and has authored or edited 26 books, which have sold over a million copies worldwide, including foreign-language editions. He hosts The Patrick Madrid Show daily on Relevant Radio.